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and warned republicans not to make any plans for the holidays. they may be hunkering down in washington, negotiating over christmas. >>> and now, abc's barbara walters is back tonight with another exclusive interview. this time, secretary of state hillary clinton. who is about to leave office, after traveling almost a million miles to nearly 100 countries. and everyone asking, does she still dream of the presidency? barbara is here right now. barbara? >> reporter: and that is the question, diane. as hillary clinton winds down her time as secretary of state, traveling the globe, we sat down together and i asked her that question, that's on everybody's mind. what's next? what most people are asking now about you is, will you consider running for president in 2016? would you just like to make your declaration now? we could conclude this interview. >> well, that would be fascinating, to me, as well as everyone else. you know, i've said i really don't believe that that's something i will do again. i am so grateful i had the experience of doing it befo
and warned republicans not to make any plans for the holidays. they may be hunkering down in washington, negotiating over christmas. >>> and now, abc's barbara walters is back tonight with another exclusive interview. this time, secretary of state hillary clinton. who is about to leave office, after traveling almost a million miles to nearly 100 countries. and everyone asking, does she still dream of the presidency? barbara is here right now. barbara? >> reporter: and that is the...
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president obama is taking aim at republicans, accusing them of blocking a bill that would prevent tax rates to go up for the middle class. fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel. and we are talking about two men now. it comes down to these two guys and a lot of jobs on the line. possible hiring freezes, furloughs if we go over the cliff. now, working for the cuts they will make if we do actually go over the cliff. a diner, middle-class taxpayers and the vice president, telling republicans a deal to extend tax cuts for all but the wealthy is easy. >> the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. >> reporter: not really. even though the two sides are talking, they aren't making much progress. remembe
president obama is taking aim at republicans, accusing them of blocking a bill that would prevent tax rates to go up for the middle class. fiscal cliff negotiations are now in the hands of just two people. president obama and house speaker john boehner. abc's david kerley joins us live with the latest. david, we have a positive jobs report. better than expected. consumer confidence floated. >> reporter: they're using the jobs report right now, the obama administration. a little more fuel....
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new polling suggests support for president obama's position in the standoff with congressional republicans. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment checks will stop immediately at the end of the year. >> we're dependent on that money to pay our bills. >> reporter: she's been without a job for a year. her $450 a week unemployment check her life line. >> we won't be able to pay some of our bills and, i mean, you know, that's for christmas and things of that nature, probably off the table. >> reporter: she is not alone. without a deal, unemployment compensation will end for more than 2 million people out of work more than 26 weeks. many of the unemployed started
new polling suggests support for president obama's position in the standoff with congressional republicans. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda...
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president obama is campaigning out there. and republicans are considering. the question is will the president gain a small victory on tarxes or a big deal. and we have the annualist, the most notable quotes of the year. the verbal gaps forever. let's see if you can guess which verbal stumble made the top of the list. finally, remember, 1%? 8%? of course, 47 pnt. this is "politics nation." the place for politics. lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! is a thrilling, dual-flavored ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work?
president obama is campaigning out there. and republicans are considering. the question is will the president gain a small victory on tarxes or a big deal. and we have the annualist, the most notable quotes of the year. the verbal gaps forever. let's see if you can guess which verbal stumble made the top of the list. finally, remember, 1%? 8%? of course, 47 pnt. this is "politics nation." the place for politics. lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you...
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boehner's counter offer was almost what republicans have been offering all along, $800 billion in tax revenues, none of them generated by higher tax rates. that stalemate is causing irritation for the senate female members. starting in january, there will be 20 of them, a new record. and they told diane sawyer if they were in charge, well, a deal would already be done. >> what i find is with all due deference to our male colleagues that women's styles tend to be more collaborative. >> i think by nature, we are less confrontational and more collaborative. and having us in the room, and i think all of us, not only do we want to work in a bipartisan way, we do it. >> certainly a turning point now for the senate in the chamber next year. it will be the first-ever females from the states of massachusetts and nebraska, as well as the first asian-american woman and the first openly gay senator as well. >> let's hear it for the girls. >> let's hear it for all that diversity. >> for the girls, that's what i'm saying. >> and asian and gay, all kinds of diversity. >> absolutely. i'm just saying
boehner's counter offer was almost what republicans have been offering all along, $800 billion in tax revenues, none of them generated by higher tax rates. that stalemate is causing irritation for the senate female members. starting in january, there will be 20 of them, a new record. and they told diane sawyer if they were in charge, well, a deal would already be done. >> what i find is with all due deference to our male colleagues that women's styles tend to be more collaborative....
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>> the white house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >> also what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life is a gift from god. even when life begins in the horrible situation of rape it is something god intended to happen. >> mourdock's popularity plummeted after that. now he's trying to pay down campaign debt. guess who's getting blamed for his election loss in the fund raising e-mail? quote, republicans all over the country were forced to accept defeat rather than celebrate victory. in our case we found ourselves caught in the liberal media cross hairs. never has indiana seen a more obvious example of media bias by reporters more interested in defeating conservatives than reporter the news. rnc chair reince priebus had hi
>> the white house is daring republicans to blink. >> obama is daring republicans literally to blink. the joke's on him because i know some republicans who have had their eyelids surgically removed. >> also what caused former indiana senate candidate richard mourdock at first the likely winner in that race to end up losing to joe donnelly? you might well point to this moment from a mourdock/donnelly debate. >> i struggled with it myself for a long time but realized life...
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of the house and president obama seem no closer to a budget deal. as you know, if they don't come up with a spending compromise, most americans will see a hefty tax increase automatically on january 1. major garrett is covering for us at the white house tonight. major? h reporter: scott, two senior white house officials tell us the next 48 hours are crucial. until republicans relent on raising income tax rates for households earning more than $250,000, the democrats will not discuss g.o.p. demand for cuts medicaitlement programs like te house and medicaid. this white house photo of president obama talking yesterday to house speaker john boehner does not convey the 2%se and difficult reality. the g.o.p. leader told mr. obama he wanted to permanently extend all current tax rates, including reose for the two 2% of earners. > there were some offers that conversahanged back and forth yesterday, and the president and r:had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> reporter: we asked white hinge spokesman jay carney today uhere things
of the house and president obama seem no closer to a budget deal. as you know, if they don't come up with a spending compromise, most americans will see a hefty tax increase automatically on january 1. major garrett is covering for us at the white house tonight. major? h reporter: scott, two senior white house officials tell us the next 48 hours are crucial. until republicans relent on raising income tax rates for households earning more than $250,000, the democrats will not discuss g.o.p....
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president obama's in campaign mode while republicans are considering, well, considering. can the president pull off a historic victory? maybe. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around for the holidays. because it's nice to have an extra pair of hands around of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. than giving her a diamond is sur
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some republicans are continuing to push back against president obama's red line. tax increases for the most wealthy. >> the game you're playing is small ball. you're talking about raising rates on the top 2% that would run the government for 11 days. you just got re-elected. how about doing something big that's not liberal. how about doing something big that really is about partisan. every big idea he has is a liberal idea that drowns us in debt. how about manning up here, mr. president. >> joining me is congressman chris van holland, a ranking member in the house committee. >> good to be with you. >> we're hearing there from lindsey graham his thoughts on fox news and this morning former governor haley barbour was on "morning joe" today and said he would support the higher taxes for the wealthy if -- >> as a republican, i would take raising the rates on the two top brackets if, in return, we had tax reform laid out over a period of months, if we had entitlement reform. i think if you have the whole package, i would hold my nose despite the facts that raising thos
some republicans are continuing to push back against president obama's red line. tax increases for the most wealthy. >> the game you're playing is small ball. you're talking about raising rates on the top 2% that would run the government for 11 days. you just got re-elected. how about doing something big that's not liberal. how about doing something big that really is about partisan. every big idea he has is a liberal idea that drowns us in debt. how about manning up here, mr. president....
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president obama put $360 billion on n. savings on the table in his proposal to the republicans. so we've got it all on the table. the republicans have given us a letter with a, you know, sort of vague outline of five things that they want to consider. tax reform is important. that we have to do over the long term next year. hopefully we can try to get some agreement quickly. but the bottom line is that democrats have put a whole bunch of things that we're willing to agree to on the table and the republicans need to show their cards and stop playing chicken with our economy. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, thank you. >>> and -- >> thank you. >> matt and liz, she makes the point about republicans and whether the conservative wing of the party is in some ways holding hostage. there have been a few reporters about the responsibility of a challenge to speaker boehner. now tom price through a spokesman has said that he's not going to make that challenge. but that person also told robert costa from "the national review" that my concern is that in our conference conservatives
president obama put $360 billion on n. savings on the table in his proposal to the republicans. so we've got it all on the table. the republicans have given us a letter with a, you know, sort of vague outline of five things that they want to consider. tax reform is important. that we have to do over the long term next year. hopefully we can try to get some agreement quickly. but the bottom line is that democrats have put a whole bunch of things that we're willing to agree to on the table and...
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you can say boehner, any republican would stand up to obama's radical agenda, but the thing -- the fact of the matter is so are the senate democrats, so are the moderates running. they're saying don't bring that up. we're not going to vote on that. don't bring up a budget we know we'll lose. a budget that never balances isn't going to work. >> we know how brilliantly paul ryan did during the presidential campaign and his magnificent two budgets but we'll put that to one side. you need 16 members to abstain from voting. >> and actually i talked to the house parliamentarian. we need them to vote for someone because of house precedent. >> can you get that number? >> they can vote anybody for speaker. >> can you get that number, ron? can you get that number? >> if speaker boehner agrees to raise taxes, especially on charities and job creators, yes, we can get that number. we will get that number and he will not be speaker if he agrees to raise taxes with president obama. i have talked to activists across the kun and they are already fired up at john boehner. if he agrees to this, it's over.
you can say boehner, any republican would stand up to obama's radical agenda, but the thing -- the fact of the matter is so are the senate democrats, so are the moderates running. they're saying don't bring that up. we're not going to vote on that. don't bring up a budget we know we'll lose. a budget that never balances isn't going to work. >> we know how brilliantly paul ryan did during the presidential campaign and his magnificent two budgets but we'll put that to one side. you need 16...
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republicans want to keep tax rates the same b end deductions and loopholes but obama says that will not get the job done. >> it is not possible to raise the amount of revenue required for a balance the package if all you rely on is closing deductions and loopholes. let me amend that. it is possible to do theoretically but it is not practical or wise as a practical many. >>reporter: ending the mortgage deduction would hammer middle class and the charity deduction being ended would hamper universities and colleges. >>trace: when republicans say the higher tax rates will hurt small business? >>reporter: and that, cost jobs. the white house says only the top 2 percent or 3 percent of small businesses are affected republicans say those are the ones that create the vast majority of the jobs. speaker boehner suggests that capping deductions would actually protect the middle class. >> we have to cut spending and put revenues on the table. now, the revenues will come from, guess who? the rip. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to
republicans want to keep tax rates the same b end deductions and loopholes but obama says that will not get the job done. >> it is not possible to raise the amount of revenue required for a balance the package if all you rely on is closing deductions and loopholes. let me amend that. it is possible to do theoretically but it is not practical or wise as a practical many. >>reporter: ending the mortgage deduction would hammer middle class and the charity deduction being ended would...
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and republicans if no deal is reached. if you look at the poll broadly, that is a little bit of good news for republicans only because most other data that i have seen suggests that the blame would fall more on republicans, so a lot of republicans pointed me to that number. one thing i would say if you look at the poll broadly, what you see and mark wrote about this this morning, i wrote about it this morning, the republican brand as it comes through and questions us in that poll is badly damaged. they ask an open-ended question, what single word or short phrase would you use to describe republicans? 17% of people offered something positive. 60 plus percent offered something negative. that's an issue. it's an issue in this fiscal cliff fight. particularly if we go over the cliff and it turns into a pr battle. it's a problem longer-term, 2014, 2016. the party has to find a way to remake what people think of it and they're not there yet. >> and when you look, mark, at the optimism, pessimism, you find that people who are eve
and republicans if no deal is reached. if you look at the poll broadly, that is a little bit of good news for republicans only because most other data that i have seen suggests that the blame would fall more on republicans, so a lot of republicans pointed me to that number. one thing i would say if you look at the poll broadly, what you see and mark wrote about this this morning, i wrote about it this morning, the republican brand as it comes through and questions us in that poll is badly...
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>> first of all, we don't have an actual proposal from the obama administration. again, i think this is just a little distraction, a bobble that they're dangling in front of the republicans. but if we got the rate down to 28%, it depends on how they're, quote, paying for it, unquote. and if they make our world wide tax system worse, if they force companies to declare investment expenses as taxable income, that's going to bias the system against new call tapital. there's all sorts of bad ways to finance it. on the other hand, if they're getting rid of the ethanol loophole and all that, it's good news. i don't trust the white house because their track record is so far to the left. >> you're not trusting them, i get that. what about this sort of conundrum. supposed they did drop the corporate tax rate from 35 to 28 and pay for it with loophole closures and put that aside. if you're a small business, you might still be sitting with higher tax rate because the upper end tax rates are going up. a small business subchapter s may be at 40% or 44% with obama care, while th
>> first of all, we don't have an actual proposal from the obama administration. again, i think this is just a little distraction, a bobble that they're dangling in front of the republicans. but if we got the rate down to 28%, it depends on how they're, quote, paying for it, unquote. and if they make our world wide tax system worse, if they force companies to declare investment expenses as taxable income, that's going to bias the system against new call tapital. there's all sorts of bad...
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it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going up. we either act now to keep them from going up from as many people as possible or they will go up on everyone. that's a disaster. let's recognize reality, take care of as many people as we can. >> meanwhile, you're right. the president was in detroit where he continued his outside-inside game of running a campaign-style effort to jin up popular support for the fiscal cliff. because he was in michigan he took a whack at the proposed legislation -- the so-called right to work legislation. listen to the president. >> these so-called right to work laws don't have to do with economics. they have to do with po
it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going up. we either act now to keep them...
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. >> as a reality for republicans is that president obama has won a second term. in many ways he won the argument. now i'm sure he's thinking about history and legacy and he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected. that gives you a power that you don't have in the first term. but he's managed to box the republicans into a place you just don't want to be, where it looks like you're prepared to allow the middle class of america to get taxed from january onwards at at higher level to save the backsides of the wealthiest 2% of americans when 70% of all americans polled say we want the 2% to be paying more tax. that argument's gone, isn't it? >> yes, it is. look, the president can rightly say that he made clear during the campaign for re-election that this was the beginning of how he was going to deal with our national debt problems, raise taxes on the top 2%. he come in with the mandate, and now he continues to advocate it and it gets great support from the american people. i think it's part of a solution to our debt problem, but if you raise taxes the way the pr
. >> as a reality for republicans is that president obama has won a second term. in many ways he won the argument. now i'm sure he's thinking about history and legacy and he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected. that gives you a power that you don't have in the first term. but he's managed to box the republicans into a place you just don't want to be, where it looks like you're prepared to allow the middle class of america to get taxed from january onwards at at higher level to...
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obama might want to get above $1 trillion. republicans will want to keep it below $1 to win. host: are the senate ways and means and finance committees involved in these discussions? guest: sam bachus, the ways and means chairman, they're keeping in touch. their staff are very involved, because they're the guys who know all about taxes. they are definitely going to be involved in negotiations, even if they are slightly not in the heart of it, which is bigger and obama. host: -- boehner and obama. host: robert, good morning. line for democrats. caller: our economy is very fragile. a lot of the things the people in this country, the millionaires and billionaires have forgotten is the fact that if it were not for the tax payers, the infrastructure we put in place, to do business here, like good roads and power grids and bridges -- the list goes on. we the taxpayers are the ones who put this in place for them to make their millions and billions. i do not think it is wrong for everybody, including working class people, to pay their fair share. i think it is the right things that w
obama might want to get above $1 trillion. republicans will want to keep it below $1 to win. host: are the senate ways and means and finance committees involved in these discussions? guest: sam bachus, the ways and means chairman, they're keeping in touch. their staff are very involved, because they're the guys who know all about taxes. they are definitely going to be involved in negotiations, even if they are slightly not in the heart of it, which is bigger and obama. host: -- boehner and...
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obama can stand pat and he's doing it right now. he can be cool hand luke. >> i think that's the way he is playing, very cool. thank you. he's going to force john boehner to come out and say what he wants done to protect the rich people or not protect them. thank you ron reagan, thank you and dana mill ban. >>> a big anti-union vote in mooer michigan is coming up. a right and left going at it. it isn't about gutting unions. a lot of people think so. stf about lowering wages and hurting democrats? you bet. >>> plus the most talked about movie in hollywood hasn't even talked about. it's about torture. many critics say "zero dark thirty" suggests without torture we wouldn't have gotten the guy. it's going to be hot. >>> and the gop's favorite supreme court justice scalia just came out with a sugar plum. if we can't have moral feelings request homosex you'llity, can we have it against murder? can we have it against other things? >>> finally, let me finish with the problem with judge scalia. i think you just heard it. this is "hardball,"
obama can stand pat and he's doing it right now. he can be cool hand luke. >> i think that's the way he is playing, very cool. thank you. he's going to force john boehner to come out and say what he wants done to protect the rich people or not protect them. thank you ron reagan, thank you and dana mill ban. >>> a big anti-union vote in mooer michigan is coming up. a right and left going at it. it isn't about gutting unions. a lot of people think so. stf about lowering wages and...
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congresswoman rogers, chair of the house republican conference, former obama foreign policy adviser, former pentagon advis r adviser, "the washington post" eugene robinson and oliver stone. tamron hall is right here. >> hey there, andrea. great to be in d.c. an it is your town. we'll talk about when's happening. another town, michigan. in fact, the state of michigan, of course, following the breaking news. the state legislature just gave final approval to right to work bills despite a massive turnout from protesters. this event is still going on. i'll talk with michigan congressman levin and the focus of the "news nation" gut check. should alor concede on things like right to work in favor of collective bargaining? that's a big question we're posing to you. just in the couple of hours, house speaker john boehner slammed the president saying americans are wondering when the president will get serious when wh it comes to the fiscal cliff talks. meanwhile, nbc's first read team says any deal reached should be a fragile one or could be. "news nation" is coming up in three. but it's not l
congresswoman rogers, chair of the house republican conference, former obama foreign policy adviser, former pentagon advis r adviser, "the washington post" eugene robinson and oliver stone. tamron hall is right here. >> hey there, andrea. great to be in d.c. an it is your town. we'll talk about when's happening. another town, michigan. in fact, the state of michigan, of course, following the breaking news. the state legislature just gave final approval to right to work bills...
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president obama, excuse me, expressed his personal support for marriage equality. i think you now have two possible candidates for president, governor o'malley in maryland, governor cuomo in new york, who are rumored to be running for president. they are -- they actively pushed for marriage equality in their states. on the democratic side, things are fine. it's on the republican party's side where there is an issue. and there is a split in that party where sort of the establishment isn't quite there yet on marriage equality. but when you talk to younger republicans, i think, you know, ken melman who richard and i both know. our friend -- i can't remember -- >> megan mccain. >> i'm so sorry. megan mccain who's out there pushing pro marriage equality positions. as soon as the republican party meets up with the melmans and mccains in their ranks, then they will join the democratic party in terms of being on the right side of history. >> you know, this point that jonathan raises is very important. because, you know, because of the way this case arises, the republicans
president obama, excuse me, expressed his personal support for marriage equality. i think you now have two possible candidates for president, governor o'malley in maryland, governor cuomo in new york, who are rumored to be running for president. they are -- they actively pushed for marriage equality in their states. on the democratic side, things are fine. it's on the republican party's side where there is an issue. and there is a split in that party where sort of the establishment isn't quite...
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. >> isn't that the obvious, republicans are in favor of a tax cut? i don't feel that's moving too much to the center. >> mathematical sense, what obama has said is he wants to extend 98% of the tax cuts. he's also said i want to cut medicare in some ways and social security maybe later. but those are big ideological victories for the republican party, if you come to think about it. a lot of democrats would rather not think about cuts, they'd want to continue to do stimulus spending. >> the 2% they don't agree on is so important and symbolic for the democrats and something that president obama campaigned on and feels that, you know, he has a mandate to do, which is to raise taxes on the top 2%. >> to your point, jane, there's a sense of an emotional investment in not getting these top marginal tax cuts extended. i want to play sound from harry reid this morning on the floor. you get a sense the republican resistance is theater, but there is a genuine belief they cannot extend these things. let's listen to harry reid. >> how many times is charlie brown
. >> isn't that the obvious, republicans are in favor of a tax cut? i don't feel that's moving too much to the center. >> mathematical sense, what obama has said is he wants to extend 98% of the tax cuts. he's also said i want to cut medicare in some ways and social security maybe later. but those are big ideological victories for the republican party, if you come to think about it. a lot of democrats would rather not think about cuts, they'd want to continue to do stimulus...
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let me bring in executive director of log cabin republicans, r. clark cooper, and democratic strategist and former dnc advisor to the obama '08 campaign, jamal simmons. gentlemen, good morning. >> good morning. >> opposition to gay marriage has obviously softened, even among conservatives. here's what george will had to say about the issue. >> this decision by the supreme court came 31 days after an election day in which three states for the first time endorsed same sex marriage. they could see it's now safe to look at this because there is something like an emerging consensus. quite riliterally, the oppositi to gay marriage is dying. >> here's what he's talking about. look at the numbers from a "washington post" poll. 66% of young people support same sex unions. 33% oppose, but if you look at 65 plus, the numbers are almost exactly the opposite. so i'm wondering, is it no longer a question of if gay marriage will be legal, but when, and if that's the case, how do you get your fellow republicans on board after they made such a very strong statemen
let me bring in executive director of log cabin republicans, r. clark cooper, and democratic strategist and former dnc advisor to the obama '08 campaign, jamal simmons. gentlemen, good morning. >> good morning. >> opposition to gay marriage has obviously softened, even among conservatives. here's what george will had to say about the issue. >> this decision by the supreme court came 31 days after an election day in which three states for the first time endorsed same sex...
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he said "republicans lost the election, but does that mean republicans have to help barack obama dismantle their party by letting its most basic conservative principles disappear into the beltway smoke and mirrors? why is it not possible for boehner or anyone else in this party to articulate for the dumbstruck public watching these dreadful cliff negotiations what the republican party stands for? well, who speaks for the gop?" you know, nicolas, i'll throw this over to you. john boehner says he wants specificity, and he wants to articulate the republican conservative point of view of what this deal should look like, but luke russert just mentioned, he hasn't said a specific thing they want to cut. >> the whole problem here is that the public is not in favor of the things that you would have to cut to save the kind of money they want to save. you can tell a lot of stuff for poor people. they don't have a lot of political power. you can cut defense contractors and you can cut from the middle class and seniors, which is very hard and dangerous. nobody wants to be the first, and there are some
he said "republicans lost the election, but does that mean republicans have to help barack obama dismantle their party by letting its most basic conservative principles disappear into the beltway smoke and mirrors? why is it not possible for boehner or anyone else in this party to articulate for the dumbstruck public watching these dreadful cliff negotiations what the republican party stands for? well, who speaks for the gop?" you know, nicolas, i'll throw this over to you. john...
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a group of republican senators said they would oppose her if nominated because of the comment made on the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. she said it was, quote, spontaneously reaction to an anti-islam video. in a letter withdrawing consideration, see san said, quote, if nominated, i'm convinced the confirmation process would be lengthy and costly to you and our most pressing priorities. read the entire letter to the on c-span.org. more on that attack in benghazi next week. secretary of state, hillary clinton, testified before the house florida affairs committee. we'll have that live on the c-span networks and c-span.org. here's a look at the prime time programming across the c-span networks. >> i've been on that bus. they are just as good as gold. >> all of us, i think, in the country were starting to people coming out and talking about their experience, this phenomena, that so many of us experienced in one way or another and had no words for other than adolescence, other than growing up. we're finally, people were starting to stand back and say, hold on, this is not a normal
a group of republican senators said they would oppose her if nominated because of the comment made on the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. she said it was, quote, spontaneously reaction to an anti-islam video. in a letter withdrawing consideration, see san said, quote, if nominated, i'm convinced the confirmation process would be lengthy and costly to you and our most pressing priorities. read the entire letter to the on c-span.org. more on that attack in benghazi next week. secretary of...
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obama would love to take it off the table now. there's no way republicans are going to give that up. it's a crucial piece of leverage than the tax rates. as we saw a year and a half ago, that is really sort of putting the basic fiscal health of the country at risk. a lot of republicans are looking at that saying this is a much better chance to get the big changes on entitlements we would like to find. >> andy, i ask this to both of you, eleanor, too. i'll start with eleanor. what are the chances that game is not going to get tied into this? the president was very specific when he gave the speech to the business round table this week talking about the fact this is not a game he's looking to play once again. what are the odds that will not be involved? >> the odds are it will not be involved. the president has important allies this time, that's the business community. the republican party has been the party of business, you know, big business, small business. the business community does not want to go through all that wrangling over
obama would love to take it off the table now. there's no way republicans are going to give that up. it's a crucial piece of leverage than the tax rates. as we saw a year and a half ago, that is really sort of putting the basic fiscal health of the country at risk. a lot of republicans are looking at that saying this is a much better chance to get the big changes on entitlements we would like to find. >> andy, i ask this to both of you, eleanor, too. i'll start with eleanor. what are the...
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obama might cave to republicans, their biggest fear, the president will do what he considered in 2011, raise the eligibility age for medicare, a top house democrat monday warned the white house to tread lightly. >> now that would save a lot of money for the federal government and look good on the balance sheet but he's not going to vote for it and i'm not going to vote for it. >> reporter: this is a big part of the story to come. if there's a deal that's a huge break-through but lawmakers still have to vote for it and democrats oppose large structural cuts to medicare and most republicans oppose income tax rates on the so-called wealthy. that's why lawmakers were told not to make big fiscal travel plans because the crisis could go to new year's eve. >> political director john dickerson joins us. how does a unionized state like michigan become a right to work state and what does it say about the politics of the country today? >> well, it becomes a right to work state by having a legislature that's dominated by republicans, and this is, it's extraordinary. we just had an election which
obama might cave to republicans, their biggest fear, the president will do what he considered in 2011, raise the eligibility age for medicare, a top house democrat monday warned the white house to tread lightly. >> now that would save a lot of money for the federal government and look good on the balance sheet but he's not going to vote for it and i'm not going to vote for it. >> reporter: this is a big part of the story to come. if there's a deal that's a huge break-through but...
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one of the mistakes i think the republican party made the last two years is trying to make obama the issue without sharing with america bold reform ideas that get people inspired to get behind us >> bill: yeah, i mean i love jim demint trying to take the high road. he has done nothing but bad things and put forth -- done nothing but put forth bad ideas in the united states senate. and he, a tea party -- he is the lead tea partyer in the united states congress, the lead tea party in the united states senate. he is the guy that has made the focus of the attacks and made that basically what the politics was all about. i wrote a about it, "the obama hate machine," ugly, mean personal attacks on president obama. jim demint, the leader of that whole gang. he insists that the heritage foundation is where he can really stretch out, unlike what he was able to do in the u.s. senate. >> this is a critical time for america, and there is no organization in the country, in fact, the world, that's better positioned to convince the american people that the conservative policies that the heritage fou
one of the mistakes i think the republican party made the last two years is trying to make obama the issue without sharing with america bold reform ideas that get people inspired to get behind us >> bill: yeah, i mean i love jim demint trying to take the high road. he has done nothing but bad things and put forth -- done nothing but put forth bad ideas in the united states senate. and he, a tea party -- he is the lead tea partyer in the united states congress, the lead tea party in the...
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raising rates is partisan political trophy for obama. i don't want to go down that road only if they do entitlement reform. i don't hear any democrat of note hering what i would do on the entitlement side. if i were republicans i would be quiet for a while and see what the democrats put on the table for entitlement reform. >> big debate last week republicans saying we will do exactly with you said. we're only going to do cuts in deductions. we'll eliminate loop hoses. -- loopholes. that is what happened over the weekend. seems like over the weekend it dissolved into accepting of raising tax rates. the president said there is no deal unless i get that. that is what i ran on. american people are expecting that. >> here is where the president will have a rude awakening. we will get to the end of the year. there will be small deal to get the end of the year. sequestration hits in january. wipes out the department of defense, a lot of draconian cuts across the board and taxes on everyone goes up. i hope boehner and obama can find a way to avo
raising rates is partisan political trophy for obama. i don't want to go down that road only if they do entitlement reform. i don't hear any democrat of note hering what i would do on the entitlement side. if i were republicans i would be quiet for a while and see what the democrats put on the table for entitlement reform. >> big debate last week republicans saying we will do exactly with you said. we're only going to do cuts in deductions. we'll eliminate loop hoses. -- loopholes. that...
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at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all the gloom the president said he remains confident a fiscal cliff deal will get done. charlie and norah? >> major garrett thank you. nancy pelosi leads the democr
at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the...
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. >>> house republicans give president obama a counteroffer on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. will it be a compromise the president can agree with? >> flames shoot more than 70 feet in the air as a gas explosion destroys homes in one community. what went wrong? that story, coming up. >>> guests include elijah cummings, charlie crist and marsha blackburn. "starting point" begins right now. >> hi, everybody. holiday shoppers scrambling for cover at a crowded mall after a gunman opened fire. 10,000 people inside the clackamas town center mall when a man wearing a mask suddenly started firing. chaos erupted. when it was over, three people dead, including the shooter himself. a young woman left wounded, fighting for her life right now. >> the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families, feel comfortable that this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. and these things aren't supposed to happen. >> i want to begin with dan simon live in portland. we know that the police have identified the shooter, but is there any indication of a motive at thi
. >>> house republicans give president obama a counteroffer on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. will it be a compromise the president can agree with? >> flames shoot more than 70 feet in the air as a gas explosion destroys homes in one community. what went wrong? that story, coming up. >>> guests include elijah cummings, charlie crist and marsha blackburn. "starting point" begins right now. >> hi, everybody. holiday shoppers scrambling for cover at a...
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look at that number. 89% say president obama should agree to that deal. house speaker john boehner says the president is not even meeting republicans halfway. here he is. >> this plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it is mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually encreases spending. the president is calling for 1.4 trillion dollars worth of revenue. that can not pass the house or the senate. bill: south dakota senator john thune chairman of the republican senate conference. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill, where are we now? anywhere? >> that is the question of the day. what seems to me to be happening here is that the white house is not real serious about any kind of a plan that has spending reductions in it, particularly that address what really drives federal spending. that is entitlement programs. they seem less and less serious getting a plan that would avert the fiscal cliff. why i think you heard a number of them say publicly they're willing to go
look at that number. 89% say president obama should agree to that deal. house speaker john boehner says the president is not even meeting republicans halfway. here he is. >> this plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it is mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually encreases spending. the president is calling for 1.4 trillion dollars worth of revenue. that can not pass the house or the senate. bill:...
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last year republican congressman peter king claimed they got classified documents from the obama administration to make this movie. the white house denied it. "zero dark thirty" opens nationwide on january 11th. >> we have a jam packed hour straight ahead on "early start," including roof comes down after a near monsoon. it happened on live tv. >> look at that guy's face and listen to him. >> you all okay? >> crazy, this as severe storms whipped across the south. we are going to talk to the crew who witnessed this whole thing. that's coming up. >>> plus, have you seen this woman? the search for the real mona lisa. did a real life indiana jones find her tomb? and is she still smirking? ben wedeman takes us there. >>> but first, wait for this. a monkey in a coat. where was this cute primate spotted and where on earth did he get that jacket? the answer to this in all the morning's crucial questions coming up next. >> that is so cute. ok this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that k
last year republican congressman peter king claimed they got classified documents from the obama administration to make this movie. the white house denied it. "zero dark thirty" opens nationwide on january 11th. >> we have a jam packed hour straight ahead on "early start," including roof comes down after a near monsoon. it happened on live tv. >> look at that guy's face and listen to him. >> you all okay? >> crazy, this as severe storms whipped across...
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there's barack obama and john boehner working things out and the republicans realizing that they've got to find a way to negotiate. so silence is golden for christmas season. >> do you agree, ron bonjean? >> yes, i completely agree. i think that silence is best. and right now while they're figuring out how to put a deal together, i think the president softening his rhetoric in michigan on the issue yesterday was extremely helpful. you know, what we are still far apart, as far as we know, on entitlement reform, spending cuts, raising the rates, you know, we've been talking so much about raising taxes that we're not talking a lot about entitlement reform and a lot about spending cuts, and i know that's what it's going to take. there's going to have to be some significant movement on the democratic side for that to occur. so we're hopeful we can see some white smoke out of the white house and the capital this week. you know, if we don't get something by early next week, it's going to be hard to see how they can whip their members into shape and get this done by christmas p christmas. >> an
there's barack obama and john boehner working things out and the republicans realizing that they've got to find a way to negotiate. so silence is golden for christmas season. >> do you agree, ron bonjean? >> yes, i completely agree. i think that silence is best. and right now while they're figuring out how to put a deal together, i think the president softening his rhetoric in michigan on the issue yesterday was extremely helpful. you know, what we are still far apart, as far as we...
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"obama could be a ruthless negotiator trying to squeeze every possible concession out of republicans before agreeing to their last offer at the last minute. he could also be an unskilled negotiator who misjudges his opponents, overreaches wildly and backs unintentionally off the cliff." which one do you think he'll deliver this time around. you know this negotiating style well. >> well, look, let me back up a little, and the basic view, they're going to reach an agreement. everybody remembers the failure from last time, the debt talks where there is damage done to the economy. there's enough pressure in the room in the sense of not only avoiding that, avoiding all these cuts and the member's own desire to get back on to the holidays. put that together in an election victory for the president of the united states, you already have republicans acknowledging on the tax issue which is a primary focus of the president we'll be fair in this approach that he is right and they're going to agree to that. so my view is they're going to work out the details just like it happened back in the bal
"obama could be a ruthless negotiator trying to squeeze every possible concession out of republicans before agreeing to their last offer at the last minute. he could also be an unskilled negotiator who misjudges his opponents, overreaches wildly and backs unintentionally off the cliff." which one do you think he'll deliver this time around. you know this negotiating style well. >> well, look, let me back up a little, and the basic view, they're going to reach an agreement....
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reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording to an unnamed aide to the speaker. meanwhile some republicans are calling on speaker john boehner to give the president what he wants on taxes so the party can focus on cutting entitlement programs. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if speaker john boehner ends up with senator corker has just said he is we will get a large agreement. but speaker john boehner hasn't said that, and so we democrats realize that there have to be two sides to this bargain. jon: special report anchor bret baier joins us now in washington. if people like senator corker say the tax increases would be okay with them on the highs income earners in this country it seems that that is bound to b
reuters is reporting the house republican offer issued last week, quote, remains the republican offer. speaker john boehner is still waiting for a new proposal from president obama, that is all uncording to an unnamed aide to the speaker. meanwhile some republicans are calling on speaker john boehner to give the president what he wants on taxes so the party can focus on cutting entitlement programs. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you...
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. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the car that killed brown. >>> morsi rescinded much of the de krch decree. a disputed draft of the constitution for the country. >>> mandy drew is at the new york stock exchange. good morning to you, mandy. >> good morning, natalie. lots of headwind from overseas, political shakeup in italy and sharply slowing down chinese export growth, keeping u.s. traders on edge not to mention the vagaries of the fiscal cliff. markets move with progress or lack of progress as the case may be. the congressional budget office says we could be back in recession the first half of next year if a deal is not reached. those are t
. >>> house speaker john boehner and president obama met sunday to discuss the fiscal cliff. republicans and democrats have been deadlocked on how to stop tax hikes and spending cuts that are set to kick in at the beginning of the year. >>> dallas cowboys defensive lineman josh brent has been released from jail after posting half a million dollars bail. he is being charged in the death of his teammate and close friend jerry brown. police say he was drunk awhen h wrecked the...
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>> yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. [ laughter ] which boehner replied, maybe i will. which obama replied. stop talking to me! to which boehner replied, stop copying me. to which obama replied whatever. to which boehner replied, whatever times infinity. to which obama replied, damn, he went for infinity it will? it is like chirp, you have to admit. also the good news is, i hear they are making progress. i think good news. who knows. behind the scenes. it's in front of the cameras when they choose to show they're not making progress. >> steve: they don't want to tip their hands. they want to make it seem like they're going for the biggest deal as possible. >> gretchen: if only it weren't so serious for the future of our nation and our children. >> brian: can i name drop? >> steve:
>> yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. [ laughter ] which boehner replied, maybe i will. which obama replied. stop talking to me! to which boehner replied, stop copying me. to which...
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reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. that hasn't been done before. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters of abc news, president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off. american families will be much better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1. and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high-income individuals. >> prediction -- are you going to be able to raise taxes, yes or no? >> oh -- taxes are going to go up one way or the other. >> they are? >> i think the key is to make sure that taxes go up on high-end individuals like you and me, barbara. we can afford it. >> you can see the rest of that interview on "20/20" this friday. >>> markets are watching every move out of washington. the industria
reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. that hasn't been done before. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters of abc news, president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off. american families will be much better off if we get this done. the most important...
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tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the higher number of women increases the chances. we will see. >> i saw the women here smiling. we were talking about how collaborative they were. the guys, not so much. >> we don't smile. i agree. the more women the better. i'm agreeing with you. can i say nothing? i said the more women, the better. i'm agreeing with you. the more women, the less self destructive egos and getting to a deal. do you have a problem with that. >> no,i don't. >> go with it. i give up. >> all right. still ahead, hollywood mogul joins us on set and author sebastian younger will be here. more morning joe in a moment. ♪ for
tax reform, the republicans have said they want tax reform. president obama said the same. we need tax reform. immigration and tax reform post the fiscal cliff will create a legacy and may see congress doing something. >> that is why it is so important that they figure out a way to come together before the end of the year hopefully. if the environment is poisoned like it was after the stimulus, after the health care debate, the next four years will be ugh low. >> that's true. the...
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yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. to which boehner replied, maybe i will. and mr. obama replied, stop copying me. so which boehner replied, stop copying me. >> to which obama replied dam infinity. you win for now boehner. >> according to a new poll that just came out, most americans think santa claus is a democrat. which is odd because you think of white, old, fat men that hire unskilled labor, i think republicans. i do. >>> you're in the situation room. happening now, cnn goes in search of syria's chemical weapons. a former regime soldier tells us his order was to shoot to kill. >>> chilling new details of the killer and new details about the shooter and what one survivor heard him say. >>> and a surprise rocket launch and marks a turning point for north korea's mysterious young lead
yesterday obama said, quote, if we can get some leadership on the republican side, we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. boehner then responded saying, quote, i've sent the president our proposal. if he doesn't like our plan, he should come back with a plan of his own. obama responded to that saying, maybe i will. to which boehner replied, maybe i will. and mr. obama replied, stop copying me. so which boehner replied, stop copying me. >> to which obama replied...
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obama's spending spree for a grand total of eight days. it's telling that 3/4 of the new taxes he has proposed would be used to finance the new spending that he has also proposed. we republicans don't want to see taxes go up on anyone, period. we don't want to see this government willfully throw hundreds of thousands of americans out of work by this policy. the president obviously believes that in the 11th hour republicans will have no choice but ultimately to protect as many taxpayers as we possibly can since the only alternative would be tax increases on everyone, including those job creators. he may be right, but that would mean a bleak and bitter new year for all of those families who watch helplessly as their jobs evaporate before their eyes. let us pray that this president has a change of heart before setting this calamity in motion. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from virginia for five minutes, mr. donnelly. mr. connolly: mr. speaker, we just heard a terrible cry on behalf of the wealthy in the united st
obama's spending spree for a grand total of eight days. it's telling that 3/4 of the new taxes he has proposed would be used to finance the new spending that he has also proposed. we republicans don't want to see taxes go up on anyone, period. we don't want to see this government willfully throw hundreds of thousands of americans out of work by this policy. the president obviously believes that in the 11th hour republicans will have no choice but ultimately to protect as many taxpayers as we...
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obama will persuade the republican-led state legislature. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> the president preaching to the choir yesterday. he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to organized labor, which continues to lose its share of the work force. it was a little under 12% of the work force last year. it was 20% 30 years ago. snyder says his goal isn't hurting unions, it's helping michigan. >> i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. you have hard working people in michigan. this is giving workers choice. >> republicans lost five seats in the michigan legislature last month and democrats accused them of fast tracking the right to work bill through the house and senate in a single day last week to get it done before the new legislature takes office next month. the democr
obama will persuade the republican-led state legislature. >> these so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> the president preaching to the choir yesterday. he was greeted by rick snyder at the airport in detroit. michigan would be the 24th right to work state in the nation and with its union background, it would be a huge blow to...
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reagan got clobbered and republicans lost 62% in 1982. if it's bad enough you don't get to a second term. there's a certain laziness. that said, if you look where obama is now and look at what could afflict him in the second term. you already see things down the road. if iraq and afghanistan go south, his decision to end american participation in those countries is going to be seen as a great mistake. if the arab spring turns into a nuclear winter, those decisions are going to afflict his second term. all i'm saying is take a breath before you do a universal theme all presidents are afflicted by a second term. >> of course, we know all presidents are afflicted by a second term and talk about the president's second term course. we're not suggesting the president was arrogant or his people were arrogant, there is -- you've been through so much four, five years into it, is there an exhaustion from not seeing your family, from not eating right, from not living right. you get ground down. >> absolutely. there is that reality, not only the pres
reagan got clobbered and republicans lost 62% in 1982. if it's bad enough you don't get to a second term. there's a certain laziness. that said, if you look where obama is now and look at what could afflict him in the second term. you already see things down the road. if iraq and afghanistan go south, his decision to end american participation in those countries is going to be seen as a great mistake. if the arab spring turns into a nuclear winter, those decisions are going to afflict his...